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	<title>Comments on: Nexus Is Born</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Jones</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By &quot;changing perceptions,&quot; I mean that Apple changed the perception that a smart phone was mostly a business device. Previously, most smart phones were in the hangs or business people and used for business purposes. Not all for sure, but in general, I think that is a safe claim. Apple made a device that a non-business person was interested in and has many &quot;smart phone&quot;-ish features if you don&#039;t feel that it is truly a smart phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It did that through many ways, probably too numerous to name here, but ease of use, a simplified interface for using and expanding the device (through apps), and touch (versus pen) interactions are among those changes.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;changing perceptions,&#8221; I mean that Apple changed the perception that a smart phone was mostly a business device. Previously, most smart phones were in the hangs or business people and used for business purposes. Not all for sure, but in general, I think that is a safe claim. Apple made a device that a non-business person was interested in and has many &#8220;smart phone&#8221;-ish features if you don&#8217;t feel that it is truly a smart phone.</p>

<p>It did that through many ways, probably too numerous to name here, but ease of use, a simplified interface for using and expanding the device (through apps), and touch (versus pen) interactions are among those changes.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Whym</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1466</link>
		<dc:creator>Whym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jim Jones (15 Jan 8:51 pm) Wrote:
&quot;Apple did a great thing by changing perceptions&quot; and &quot;... can thank Apple for pointing the way and pioneering&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What makes you say that? Can you elaborate/explain please?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Jones (15 Jan 8:51 pm) Wrote:
&#8220;Apple did a great thing by changing perceptions&#8221; and &#8220;&#8230; can thank Apple for pointing the way and pioneering&#8221;</p>

<p>What makes you say that? Can you elaborate/explain please?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jim Jones</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess I feel the same way about the Nexus/Apple debate as I do about your Skype discussion (listening to the episodes out of order, I suppose).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple did a great thing by changing perceptions, but they also have a locked in mindset on how to do certain things... the venerable (debatable?) Apple Way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google can thank Apple for pointing the way and pioneering, but still poke around the edges of where the Apple Way falls down and come out of it with a huge success.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The kerfluffle over the Apple App Store or the ability to add apps without visiting the App Store are just two examples. Google can go a lot further with this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, never forget, Google as a Content and Applications company (and not a hardware company) probably has an edge when it comes to agility. They can move quicker to round out its handsets (Nexus and otherwise) than Apple probably can.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The nice thing about the Nexus is that it will probably slow down some of the Android handset feature fracturing that has been going on. Come to think of it, it is another example of an agile move given that Android phones have only been out for something like 18 months.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PS... Please implement a subscribe to follow ups via email so we can keep the conversation going...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I feel the same way about the Nexus/Apple debate as I do about your Skype discussion (listening to the episodes out of order, I suppose).</p>

<p>Apple did a great thing by changing perceptions, but they also have a locked in mindset on how to do certain things&#8230; the venerable (debatable?) Apple Way.</p>

<p>Google can thank Apple for pointing the way and pioneering, but still poke around the edges of where the Apple Way falls down and come out of it with a huge success.</p>

<p>The kerfluffle over the Apple App Store or the ability to add apps without visiting the App Store are just two examples. Google can go a lot further with this.</p>

<p>Also, never forget, Google as a Content and Applications company (and not a hardware company) probably has an edge when it comes to agility. They can move quicker to round out its handsets (Nexus and otherwise) than Apple probably can.</p>

<p>The nice thing about the Nexus is that it will probably slow down some of the Android handset feature fracturing that has been going on. Come to think of it, it is another example of an agile move given that Android phones have only been out for something like 18 months.</p>

<p>PS&#8230; Please implement a subscribe to follow ups via email so we can keep the conversation going&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James Duncan</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>James Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First to bring it into the mainstream, though.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First to bring it into the mainstream, though.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James Duncan</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1265</link>
		<dc:creator>James Duncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nexus One does indeed allow this.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nexus One does indeed allow this.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Whym</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1258</link>
		<dc:creator>Whym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ok, I think I understand what you are getting at... There is, imho, a correction to make though:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren’t in that market, Apple are all in favour of making it as easy as possible for them to choose whichever one&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;...To...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren’t in that market, Apple are all in favour of totally not giving a shit about them&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Was that wrong?
I wish it was.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I think I understand what you are getting at&#8230; There is, imho, a correction to make though:</p>

<p>&#8220;If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren’t in that market, Apple are all in favour of making it as easy as possible for them to choose whichever one&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8230;To&#8230;</p>

<p>&#8220;If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren’t in that market, Apple are all in favour of totally not giving a shit about them&#8221;</p>

<p>Was that wrong?
I wish it was.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sil</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1245</link>
		<dc:creator>sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My point was: if consumers have a choice between A, B, C, and Apple, then Apple are against choice and will try and lock you in to Apple. If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren&#039;t in that market, Apple are all in favour of making it as easy as possible for them to choose whichever one of X, Y, or Z they want.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point was: if consumers have a choice between A, B, C, and Apple, then Apple are against choice and will try and lock you in to Apple. If consumers have a choice between X, Y, and Z, and Apple aren&#8217;t in that market, Apple are all in favour of making it as easy as possible for them to choose whichever one of X, Y, or Z they want.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Whym</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Whym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sil (12 Jan, 12:32 am) Wrote:
&quot;Yeah, but being locked into Apple is one thing; being locked into AT&amp;T hasn’t helped any of their customers. Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as Apple aren’t one of the choices.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m sorry, what?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;May I correct that please?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as the consumer’s choice is between Apple, Apple, Apple or Apple.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sil (12 Jan, 12:32 am) Wrote:
&#8220;Yeah, but being locked into Apple is one thing; being locked into AT&amp;T hasn’t helped any of their customers. Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as Apple aren’t one of the choices.&#8221;</p>

<p>I&#8217;m sorry, what?</p>

<p>May I correct that please?</p>

<p>&#8220;Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as the consumer’s choice is between Apple, Apple, Apple or Apple.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1232</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ars says it is great:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/nexus-one-review.ars/1&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ars says it is great:</p>

<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/nexus-one-review.ars/1" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/01/nexus-one-review.ars/1</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jon Farmer</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The IPhone got just as much backlash over support as the Nexus One if not more. Google have already stated they need to do better. As for me I got my Nexus One last Friday and love it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IPhone got just as much backlash over support as the Nexus One if not more. Google have already stated they need to do better. As for me I got my Nexus One last Friday and love it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What Google want to do:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Google want to set the standard for what a good Android phone is (quality, design, features, software) &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;They want to use their very powerful brand to make fairly unkown producers like HTC or maybe some chinese manufacturers a instant hit with consumers (the Nexus One is just a HTC phone sold by Google) &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they want to have control over software updates ( so that things like the Samsung Galaxy that seems stuck at Android 1.5 wont happen) &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they want to make the carriers just dumb pipes in the long run, Google is in this for the long run and carriers being dumb pipes is very good for Google. &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;they want hype and free marketing (like everyone else really) &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think Google wants to provide a store where consumers can buy a variety of good supported Android phones and where you have good price transparency and different carriers to choose from and take way a lot of the worry that comes from the massive amount of different Android phones (see paradox of choice) This will migitate the problems we see in the Windows world with the varying quality.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess Chrome OS computers could be sold similarly.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Google want to do:</p>

<ul>
<li>Google want to set the standard for what a good Android phone is (quality, design, features, software) </li>
<li>They want to use their very powerful brand to make fairly unkown producers like HTC or maybe some chinese manufacturers a instant hit with consumers (the Nexus One is just a HTC phone sold by Google) </li>
<li>they want to have control over software updates ( so that things like the Samsung Galaxy that seems stuck at Android 1.5 wont happen) </li>
<li>they want to make the carriers just dumb pipes in the long run, Google is in this for the long run and carriers being dumb pipes is very good for Google. </li>
<li>they want hype and free marketing (like everyone else really) </li>
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<p>I think Google wants to provide a store where consumers can buy a variety of good supported Android phones and where you have good price transparency and different carriers to choose from and take way a lot of the worry that comes from the massive amount of different Android phones (see paradox of choice) This will migitate the problems we see in the Windows world with the varying quality.</p>

<p>I guess Chrome OS computers could be sold similarly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nathan Haines</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1182</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Haines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d like to think that the main advantage of Google putting out their own phone is that it will be a &quot;premier&quot; experience device, and other manufacturers will compete against it.  This will raise the quality of Android-based phones in general.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;d also be nice if it started a trend of direct-sale of unlocked phones, but I won&#039;t hold my breath on that one.  For now, I&#039;ll just be happy that T-Mobile is happy to give you an unlock code upon request after 3 months (or immediately if you buy a phone from them without a subsidy).  :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to think that the main advantage of Google putting out their own phone is that it will be a &#8220;premier&#8221; experience device, and other manufacturers will compete against it.  This will raise the quality of Android-based phones in general.</p>

<p>It&#8217;d also be nice if it started a trend of direct-sale of unlocked phones, but I won&#8217;t hold my breath on that one.  For now, I&#8217;ll just be happy that T-Mobile is happy to give you an unlock code upon request after 3 months (or immediately if you buy a phone from them without a subsidy).  <img src='http://shotofjaq.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sil</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1156</link>
		<dc:creator>sil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 23:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but being locked into Apple is one thing; being locked into AT&amp;T hasn&#039;t helped any of their customers. Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as Apple aren&#039;t one of the choices.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but being locked into Apple is one thing; being locked into AT&amp;T hasn&#8217;t helped any of their customers. Apple are all in favour of consumer choice as long as Apple aren&#8217;t one of the choices.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ikt</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1152</link>
		<dc:creator>ikt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just bought a htc hero for an insane amount of money  so I&#039;m going to stick my fingers in my ears for the next year or 2..&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just bought a htc hero for an insane amount of money  so I&#8217;m going to stick my fingers in my ears for the next year or 2..</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Whym</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>Whym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aq said: &quot;Google are big enough that they can say We are gonna go and sell this phone to ordinary people and carriers you are just gonna have to deal with that... And other firms cannot do that because they are not really big enough... Apple did not do that for example, I don&#039;t know why Apple didn&#039;t do it because they are not a big enough deal or not, but they didn&#039;t [...]&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You more or less answered your own question there, Aq. &quot;...Its just a nice thing that Google is, at least theoretically, on our side...&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple didn&#039;t do it, because they are not on our side. Consumer lock-in IS Apple, it is a massive part of their DNA, you see it going on in almost every aspect of Apples activities. It would probably take the death of their CEO to change this - and even then it is a long shot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aq said: &#8220;Google are big enough that they can say We are gonna go and sell this phone to ordinary people and carriers you are just gonna have to deal with that&#8230; And other firms cannot do that because they are not really big enough&#8230; Apple did not do that for example, I don&#8217;t know why Apple didn&#8217;t do it because they are not a big enough deal or not, but they didn&#8217;t [...]&#8220;</p>

<p>You more or less answered your own question there, Aq. &#8220;&#8230;Its just a nice thing that Google is, at least theoretically, on our side&#8230;&#8221;</p>

<p>Apple didn&#8217;t do it, because they are not on our side. Consumer lock-in IS Apple, it is a massive part of their DNA, you see it going on in almost every aspect of Apples activities. It would probably take the death of their CEO to change this &#8211; and even then it is a long shot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Whym</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Whym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Something Jono said (in the shot) seemed to imply, imho - correct me if that was not the intended meaning... Seemed to imply that the iPhone introduced touch to phones. That is not the case, despite what we have heard Apple and its followers say so often, the iPhone was not the first phone to use touch.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something Jono said (in the shot) seemed to imply, imho &#8211; correct me if that was not the intended meaning&#8230; Seemed to imply that the iPhone introduced touch to phones. That is not the case, despite what we have heard Apple and its followers say so often, the iPhone was not the first phone to use touch.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alistair Munro (b1ackcr0w)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair Munro (b1ackcr0w)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nobody is going to kill the iPhone or change the phone market while this crap is going on...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8451473.stm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Get it together chaps!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is going to kill the iPhone or change the phone market while this crap is going on&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8451473.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8451473.stm</a></p>

<p>Get it together chaps!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: No'</title>
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		<dc:creator>No'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Not available in France either. Will probably be at the end of the 1st quarter. If you want, I can get you one... But I&#039;m afraid it&#039;ll be shipped with an AZERTY keyboard :p&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not available in France either. Will probably be at the end of the 1st quarter. If you want, I can get you one&#8230; But I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;ll be shipped with an AZERTY keyboard :p</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: .james</title>
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		<dc:creator>.james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Between google voice and skype, I don&#039;t have a phone any more. In the U.S, google voice will connect a telephone number it can call on the regular phone networks with any other phone number for free.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s about six bucks to get a telephone number with skype.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So I can have google voice call my skype number and connect me with any other telephone in the U.S. without charge. It&#039;s pretty awesome.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between google voice and skype, I don&#8217;t have a phone any more. In the U.S, google voice will connect a telephone number it can call on the regular phone networks with any other phone number for free.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s about six bucks to get a telephone number with skype.</p>

<p>So I can have google voice call my skype number and connect me with any other telephone in the U.S. without charge. It&#8217;s pretty awesome.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brian O'Donovan</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1139</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian O'Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Although Google is making a big deal of the fact that this phone is being sold free from a network contract, it still is not available to people in Ireland.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I click on the button on the Google web site to order a phone I get a message &quot;I am sorry that this product is not available in your country&quot;. I can&#039;t understand why that should be the case. Why is Google discriminating against Irish people?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know that I could get a friend in another country to order on my behalf and then ship it to me, but I don&#039;t want to go to such lengths to give money to a company who does not want to sell to me :-(&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Google is making a big deal of the fact that this phone is being sold free from a network contract, it still is not available to people in Ireland.</p>

<p>When I click on the button on the Google web site to order a phone I get a message &#8220;I am sorry that this product is not available in your country&#8221;. I can&#8217;t understand why that should be the case. Why is Google discriminating against Irish people?</p>

<p>I know that I could get a friend in another country to order on my behalf and then ship it to me, but I don&#8217;t want to go to such lengths to give money to a company who does not want to sell to me <img src='http://shotofjaq.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: enhickman</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>enhickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A while back Google made a bid on wireless spectrum in the US. In 2007 Google asked that some regulations be added to the commercial licenses of the spectrum, only two of the four regulations were accepted by the FCC. While Google didn&#039;t win any spectrum themselves, the regulations they got in paved the way for an android type device. Things like the android app store could have been snuffed out without the regulations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20070720_wireless.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/07/fcc-sets-700mhz-auction-rules-limited-open-access-no-wholesale-requirement.ars&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back Google made a bid on wireless spectrum in the US. In 2007 Google asked that some regulations be added to the commercial licenses of the spectrum, only two of the four regulations were accepted by the FCC. While Google didn&#8217;t win any spectrum themselves, the regulations they got in paved the way for an android type device. Things like the android app store could have been snuffed out without the regulations.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20070720_wireless.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20070720_wireless.html</a></p>

<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/07/fcc-sets-700mhz-auction-rules-limited-open-access-no-wholesale-requirement.ars" rel="nofollow">http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/07/fcc-sets-700mhz-auction-rules-limited-open-access-no-wholesale-requirement.ars</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The answer Aqs point about Apple not decided to go carrier agnostic...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It was because Apple couldn&#039;t have done some of the original iPhone features had they been agnostic. Like visual voicemail for example. At the time it was unheard of to have a voice mail that didn&#039;t suck and for Apple to fix it involved the carrier changing their voice mail back end to work a new modern way just for the iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple were never going to release a phone that was just like all the others but prettier, it had to be a game changing or they needn&#039;t bother, so in the end partnering with someone was their only option to offer all the features.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If rumours are to be believed, AT&amp;T was not Apple&#039;s first choice carrier, but Verizon turned them down because they refused to allow Apple to dictate these changes needed to give a better experience. A choice I&#039;m sure they have nightmares over even to this day.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer Aqs point about Apple not decided to go carrier agnostic&#8230;</p>

<p>It was because Apple couldn&#8217;t have done some of the original iPhone features had they been agnostic. Like visual voicemail for example. At the time it was unheard of to have a voice mail that didn&#8217;t suck and for Apple to fix it involved the carrier changing their voice mail back end to work a new modern way just for the iPhone.</p>

<p>Apple were never going to release a phone that was just like all the others but prettier, it had to be a game changing or they needn&#8217;t bother, so in the end partnering with someone was their only option to offer all the features.</p>

<p>If rumours are to be believed, AT&amp;T was not Apple&#8217;s first choice carrier, but Verizon turned them down because they refused to allow Apple to dictate these changes needed to give a better experience. A choice I&#8217;m sure they have nightmares over even to this day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Varg</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1129</link>
		<dc:creator>Varg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I can see the telco killer angle, but at $530 the Nexus is hardly &#039;game changing&#039; is it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Had it been $199 (or even $299) that the rumour mill was reporting, it would have set a million geek in motion (me included)...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having read the in-depth reviews, unless Google does something very big and very soon, the Nexus will be just another Android phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My contract&#039;s up a few months and in a straight shoot-out, the Motorola Droid (Milestone in the UK) beats the Nexus in many areas, and will be my next Android phone unless Google get their act together...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see the telco killer angle, but at $530 the Nexus is hardly &#8216;game changing&#8217; is it?</p>

<p>Had it been $199 (or even $299) that the rumour mill was reporting, it would have set a million geek in motion (me included)&#8230;</p>

<p>Having read the in-depth reviews, unless Google does something very big and very soon, the Nexus will be just another Android phone.</p>

<p>My contract&#8217;s up a few months and in a straight shoot-out, the Motorola Droid (Milestone in the UK) beats the Nexus in many areas, and will be my next Android phone unless Google get their act together&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rstonehouse</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1128</link>
		<dc:creator>rstonehouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For all the talk of this move being a carrier killer still at the end of the day your service is currently only going to be provided by one carrier. I take it you still get billed by the carrier for the (optional) contract part.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To really make the carriers into must a bit-pipe I can see goggle bulk-buying bandwidth and having their own billing system. This could improve coverage; especially 3G (which is important because the per-bit costs are much less) by google having relationships with many carriers within one country. i.e. you would always be roaming - but the costs would actually be reasonable for once.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Having a large number of users, and massive amount of traffic that they could switch traffic between carriers at will and this would give google huge bargaining power.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And strong carrier relationships might have other advantages. I know that apple with visual voicemail and their mobile push was the first company to really integrate inside a telco network. Google clearly doesn&#039;t need that tech as it has google voice. But what could google do with access to cell-tower triangulation (send you ads for shops you go past?), or free SMS (very low power push notifications to improve battery life?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And what if google bought some mobile spectrum and subsidised femtocells.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It will be very interesting to see how google push into this market. Perhaps it is not whether the Nexus One an iPhone killer but instead how plausible that google is a telco killer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For all the talk of this move being a carrier killer still at the end of the day your service is currently only going to be provided by one carrier. I take it you still get billed by the carrier for the (optional) contract part.</p>

<p>To really make the carriers into must a bit-pipe I can see goggle bulk-buying bandwidth and having their own billing system. This could improve coverage; especially 3G (which is important because the per-bit costs are much less) by google having relationships with many carriers within one country. i.e. you would always be roaming &#8211; but the costs would actually be reasonable for once.</p>

<p>Having a large number of users, and massive amount of traffic that they could switch traffic between carriers at will and this would give google huge bargaining power.</p>

<p>And strong carrier relationships might have other advantages. I know that apple with visual voicemail and their mobile push was the first company to really integrate inside a telco network. Google clearly doesn&#8217;t need that tech as it has google voice. But what could google do with access to cell-tower triangulation (send you ads for shops you go past?), or free SMS (very low power push notifications to improve battery life?)</p>

<p>And what if google bought some mobile spectrum and subsidised femtocells.</p>

<p>It will be very interesting to see how google push into this market. Perhaps it is not whether the Nexus One an iPhone killer but instead how plausible that google is a telco killer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shane Fagan</title>
		<link>http://shotofjaq.org/2010/01/nexus-is-born/comment-page-1/#comment-1125</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Fagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 03:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The problem with google is they have too much info. Its scary they have our emails, our search data and then they have dns(which they can see your entire traffic) and the android phones. They have way way way too much info about you and its very suspect. I dont think the company are evil (like a certain other multinational company that shall remain nameless) and I dont think they have done anything for us not to trust them but its scary. 
As for the nexus one it seems to be great phone but like microsoft moving into the xbox and the zune, software companies dont make good hardware manufacturers. So I expect there to be some problems down the line but I hope im wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with google is they have too much info. Its scary they have our emails, our search data and then they have dns(which they can see your entire traffic) and the android phones. They have way way way too much info about you and its very suspect. I dont think the company are evil (like a certain other multinational company that shall remain nameless) and I dont think they have done anything for us not to trust them but its scary. 
As for the nexus one it seems to be great phone but like microsoft moving into the xbox and the zune, software companies dont make good hardware manufacturers. So I expect there to be some problems down the line but I hope im wrong.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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